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Offline navi

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even if not
« on: August 30, 2013, 07:12:00 am »
Are these sentences correct:

1-This is a man you all probably know, if not from the companies he has put his name on.

2-This is a man you all probably know, even if not from the companies he has put his name on.

You all probably know him, although you might not know him from the companies he has put his name on.

Gratefully,
Navi,

Offline Britta

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Re: even if not
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2013, 07:33:37 am »
They both sound pretty strange to my (non-native) ear. As for correctness - define what you mean by "correct".
 
As a non-native speaker I would stay away from those complicated constructions altogether. They are never necessary, you show it yourself: you can express the facts pretty well in a "normal" sentence.
 
When you play around with constructions such as this you normally end up with strange results. But even if you happen to construct one that looks ok - well, what do you learn from it? It could just be an idiom or a coincidence of words that happen to work together, but wouldn't when you change the verb (or whatever).
« Last Edit: August 30, 2013, 07:51:30 am by Britta »
If it's not used by a native speaker it's not idiomatic. And idiom trumps grammar every time. Jack Wilkerson†

Offline Darryl

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Re: even if not
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 12:40:08 pm »
Britta has summed it up well; these are artificial and unnecessarily complex sentences and 'correct' or not, there is always a simpler more straightforward way of expressing them.