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General => Language Questions => Topic started by: Cindy on January 14, 2019, 07:32:01 am

Title: word order
Post by: Cindy on January 14, 2019, 07:32:01 am
Dear all,

Please advise if both of the word order in the following sentences are right or wrong.

1. Rubbish was thrown into the rubbish bin by me just now.
2. Rubbish was thrown by me into the rubbish bin just now.

Thanks in advance.

Cindy
Title: Re: word order
Post by: admin on January 14, 2019, 10:41:54 am
Well......
#1 is correct - but why would you want to say that? We rarely use the passive voice unless there is a very good reason.

I would suggest:
I have just thrown some rubbish into the rubbish bin.
Or, more natural:
I have just thrown some rubbish away.
Title: Re: word order
Post by: Cindy on January 14, 2019, 02:20:55 pm
Duncan,

This is the answer of the examination paper. It is mechanical though.
The question is to let students change active sentences into passive sentences.
The  question is : I threw rubbish into the rubbish bin just now.
Title: Re: word order
Post by: admin on January 14, 2019, 03:53:56 pm
Frankly - what a stupid and pointless examination :(
#1 then.
Title: Re: word order
Post by: davel on January 14, 2019, 06:18:57 pm
I think I could accept #2 if it was set off by commas, and the point was to strongly emphasise that I was the one who threw the rubbish.

But I agree with Duncan, it sounds like the exam is making you jump through hoops just for the sake of jumping.
Title: Re: word order
Post by: admin on January 14, 2019, 06:26:38 pm
Yup. What exam was that? I would like to write to them and tell them what a load of baloney there exam appears to be.
Title: Re: word order
Post by: Darryl on January 15, 2019, 09:21:23 am
Yep. Their exam is nonsense. Give 'em a serve, Duncan!
Title: Re: word order
Post by: Hulkreror on January 16, 2019, 10:15:27 am
The study has been made of this knowledge to study it failed to look elsewhere anymore.
Title: Re: word order
Post by: Darryl on January 16, 2019, 11:28:33 am
I think Hulkreror wrote the exam.
Title: Re: word order
Post by: admin on January 16, 2019, 11:35:47 am
 ;)
Title: Re: word order
Post by: Cindy on January 17, 2019, 01:08:20 pm
Wow, you all are quite direct! Yes, I guess most schools in Hong Kong would set this kind of questions for students to do in tests and exams.
Title: Re: word order
Post by: admin on January 18, 2019, 10:32:03 am
 :)