Author Topic: a rock group  (Read 47 times)

Offline navi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 857
a rock group
« on: June 30, 2020, 10:53:18 am »
Which are correct:

1) They are a rock group who are very popular in Norway.

2) They are a rock group that are very popular in Norway.

3) They are a rock group which is very popular in Norway.

4) They are a rock group that is very popular in Norway.

Gratefully,
Navi

Offline admin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3594
  • In the heart of Shropshire
    • Lydbury English Centre Ltd
Re: a rock group
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2020, 06:17:25 pm »
3 and 4. It is the group that is referred to.
Best wishes,

Duncan

Offline navi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 857
Re: a rock group
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2020, 11:26:28 pm »
Thank you very much, Duncan,

Are these incorrect:

a) We are studying a group who have lost their jobs.

b) They were part of a group who went out a lot.

Gratefully,
Navi

Offline admin

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3594
  • In the heart of Shropshire
    • Lydbury English Centre Ltd
Re: a rock group
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2020, 09:24:34 am »
Thanks for that navi.

Some "group words" can be treated as singular or plural depending on how you look at them. Are you looking at the group as a whole or the individuals within the group? In your example a, you are probably thinking of the individuals - each poor person who has lost a job - so you would probably say "who have lost their jobs". In your b, you are lookng at the individuals but you could also look at the group as a whole; in which case it would be ...which went out a lot/ that went out a lot.

Hope that makes sense.
Best wishes,

Duncan

Offline navi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 857
Re: a rock group
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2020, 09:16:21 am »
Thank you very much, Duncan,

It makes perfect sense, as usual. There are two ways to look at a group: as a single whole or as a collection of individuals.

Everything seems very clear.

Thanks again.
Respectfully,
Navi