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all vs. any
« on: June 19, 2019, 07:35:04 am »
Could one use
a. That happened before all of you were born.

instead of
b. That happened before any of you were born.
?

Could one use
c. The doors were closed before all of the guests arrived.
instead of
d. The doors were closed before any of the guests arrived.
?

To me, there is a difference between (a) and (b), but I get the feeling that some people use (a) instead of (b). I doubt that anyone would use (c) instead of (d).

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Re: all vs. any
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2019, 07:49:11 am »
a - makes sense but is not the normal collocation.
b - fine.
c - some guests had arrived but not all of them.
d - none of the guests had arrived.
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Re: all vs. any
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2019, 08:02:25 am »
Thank you Duncan.

Doesn't (a) mean some of you were born, but not all of you?

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Re: all vs. any
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2019, 10:30:33 am »
No. That would have to be:  That happened before some of you were born.
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Re: all vs. any
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2019, 08:25:17 pm »
Thank you Duncan.

You are obviously right. I made a mistake. I meant to say that (a) leaves open the possibility that some of you were born before that happened.

e. When that happened, not all of you were born.


Well, maybe some of you were.

It seems to me that (e) and (a) mean the same, and both leave open the possibility that some were born when that happened.

I might be missing something big here!!

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Re: all vs. any
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2019, 09:57:43 pm »
Yes that's fine except that e demands the past perfect.

e. When that happened, not all of you had been born.
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