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« on: February 12, 2019, 03:29:23 am »
I may add that his whole debts at the present moment, as far as we have been able to ascertain, amount to £88 10s., while he has £220 standing to his credit in the Capital and Counties Bank. There is no reason, therefore, to think that money troubles have been weighing upon his mind.  (from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, by Arthur Conan Doyle; a larger context is here; use ctrl-f to locate the sentence)

Please explain "10s".  Thanks.  --- tk

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Re: ---- 10s
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2019, 08:52:31 am »
shillings

see here for more details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shilling
« Last Edit: February 12, 2019, 08:55:16 am by Britta »
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2019, 03:22:43 am »
Thanks, Britta, but I feel it unusual that a person's debts are indicated by 88 pounds "in shillings".  Is there more I should know about to clear my puzzle?  Thanks again.  --- tk

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Re: ---- 10s
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2019, 08:06:44 am »
£88 10s. The pound used to comprise 20 shillings so £88 10s means "ten and a half" pounds.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2019, 08:25:16 am »
Now I'm confused! I can understand that 10s is half a pound, but how did you get from £88  to ten pounds?
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Re: ---- 10s
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2019, 09:25:38 am »
Duncan means that 88 pounds 10s = 88 and a half pounds. (I can't find the pounds symbol.)

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Re: ---- 10s
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2019, 10:15:46 am »
Sorry - yes - 88 and a half pounds - thanks Daryl.
£ - try alt 0163
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Re: ---- 10s
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2019, 03:34:41 pm »
(I can't find the pounds symbol.)

I copied it from the post above me  ::)
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2019, 11:27:32 am »
I copied it from the post above me  ::)

Duh! I didn't think of that. £. Easy.

alt  0163     gives me  163. It refuses to print the 0.


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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2019, 04:50:25 pm »
Just in case you misunderstood: you need to hold down the Alt key while pressing 0163. You do not press the + key at all. You may need to activate NumLock or use the numbers above the letters.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2019, 10:39:23 pm »
So if I want a pound symbol:

alt key (hold down) 0163

Zilch.

Try Num Lock:

No difference.

For everyday use in Word, it's no problem to find symbols on the tool bar menu. But you can't access that in these reply boxes. Anyway, how often do we need a pound symbol here?  :)

Copied from Word:  £     Ta da!

« Last Edit: February 19, 2019, 10:43:51 pm by Darryl »

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2019, 03:31:11 am »
I found this site.  You can copy the symbol by just clicking on it.  "Start Word, create a symbol, highlight it, and copy it" -- this can be reduced to "open a new tab and click".

https://coolsymbol.com/

Alas, it has phonetic symbols for English but not for French.  --- tk

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Re: ---- 10s
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2019, 11:38:44 am »
À = a grave
è = e grave
ç
etc.  I found the codes for French here: http://www.keyxl.com/aaaa6c6/383/French-Accents-Alt-Codes-keyboard-shortcuts.htm

They worked here with holding down the Alt key and typing the numbers from the number pad. When I released the alt key, the symbol was in the text box. I didn't have to copy/paste.

Here they are for Spanish: https://www.spanishdict.com/answers/282262/how-to-type-spanish-letters-and-accents-from-paralee
German: https://www.livinglanguage.com/community/discussion/392/typing-german-letters-with-an-american-keyboard

There are several keyboard variations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2019, 12:27:03 pm »
£

Well, there ya go. I never realised there was a number pad. I never go near that side of the keyboard.