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Offline Darryl

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I don't get it...
« on: October 15, 2013, 09:42:35 am »
Below is the political cartoon that appeared in our local daily, The Cairns Post. I have always admired Zanetti's wit as he satires Australian politics, but this American comment is lost on me. I know the U.S. is struggling with some financial stand-off, but why the elephant and who is in the middle?


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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2013, 12:22:30 pm »
Pictured left to right: President Barack Obama, Uncle Sam, the Republican Party's symbolized by the elephant.  Note that Uncle Sam, also a symbol of the U.S. government, is holding his hat as for a handout.
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Re: I don't get it...
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 01:03:15 pm »
Is that the elephant in the room Bertha - or is that a general symbolism for the Republicans?
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2013, 03:51:38 pm »
The elephant represents the Republican party, a donkey is the symbol representing the Democrats (the good guys)..............GG

P.S. This whole fiasco is a result of the ineptness of the Republicans..........................gg

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Re: I don't get it...
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2013, 04:43:09 pm »
Never should have given them independence  :o
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013, 05:11:55 pm »
Rat!...............................................................GG :)

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Re: I don't get it...
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2013, 05:25:39 pm »
Indeed  8)
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Re: I don't get it...
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2013, 11:26:20 am »
Never should have given them independence  :o

Good one  8)
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Re: I don't get it...
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013, 12:17:18 pm »
 ;)
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Re: I don't get it...
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2013, 05:21:01 pm »
The cartoon's allegorical representation is amusing.  However, the players (Obama, Uncle Sam and Elephant)  in the way they are represented need to be explained further.  This simply represents the partisan politics that consumes America-- a situation that is viewed by foreigners in a negative way.
It has always been this way and this is where it will always be.


. . .This fiasco is caused by the ineptness of the Republicans.
No, it is the other way round. The ineptness lies with the Democratic party that is led by inept leadership.  The failure of the president in reaching a consensus among party members is what's causing this debacle in Washington. 
The big stumbling block is the health care (Obamacare) that Democrats passed in the senate without a single vote from the Republicans.

A president who is unable to achieve a bipartisan legislation is not something we would expect from the leader of the free world.  Obama would rather engage in a duel with the Republican-led House of Representatives (as depicted in the cartoon) instead of working for better solution that would benefit all Americans and not make them look like begging for handouts.


. . . They should have never been given independence.

Had this been the case there would have been no American English and we'd be all subjects. . . that would be less study of  grammar would it not?  ::)   

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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2013, 06:14:39 pm »
Gentlemen and lady:

I take issue with the words “given independence.”

Nobody gave us independence. The American colonials fought a fierce war for four years to defeat the powerful military forces of the mother country. We defeated them because we were motivated by an unflappable desire for FREEDOM and independence. It was the “will” of the colonists that resulted in victory. No one gave us independence……..we took it! ………………………………………..GG :-*

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Re: I don't get it...
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2013, 06:56:16 am »
motivated by an unflappable desire for FREEDOM and independence.

Wow. And then came the NSA...  :-X
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Re: I don't get it...
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2013, 09:27:43 am »
I think there has been sufficient steam raised in this thread so I am going to close it.

I think it's a shame if we can't all be a little light-hearted in this day and age. But, never mind, let's all stay off politics in the future.

Now, how about sex and religion?  :-\
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Re: I don't get it...
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2013, 12:22:00 pm »
Ahem!
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